After getting my article, Big Star Formation, published on my school’s newspaper-on-the-web, it was opened up for discussion. I had two peers, who believed in God, respond to what I said. I have posted our discussion below (I have left all the grammar as-is):
This is very interesting, but you seem to have left something out:
How can stars form?
Every object in the entire universe has it. Even single atoms, they are attracted to each other by the force of gravity. The bigger something is, the more gravity it has. As long as there is no larger gravitational force nearby, and as long as the cloud of gas isn’t too thin, eventually all the atoms will collect together.
When it gets BIG enough, the force of gravity alone is enough to cause the core of the star to ignite. And THAT is when you have your star.
Sorry if I sound like a know-it-all ^^”
Thanks for your comment, I don’t see you as a know-it-all, I appreciate the time you took to interact. There is only one problem with your above-mentioned theory . . . it doesn’t work. Gases cannot contract by gravity, in fact, when gravity is forced on a gas, it actually expands. This is recorded scientific data. Gravity cannot pull gases together to form a star.
Thanks for contributing to the topic!
[Removed link: this article, though interesting had rather offensive comments]
here is a confirmed report of a star being born.
And there are nebula filled with gasses that have a lot of young stars next to them. How did they show up that recently?
AND: even if gas couldn’t compress under it’s own gravity those clouds aren’t JUST gas you know, there are flecks of other elements as well that DO have gravity. (how do you think earth keeps it’s atmosphere? or jupiter? they have a core of heavier elements.) Strong enough gravity to attract other particles.
And, I’m going to mention this again, ALL objects and atoms have gravity. Gasses like to spread out, granted, but their gravity will keep them together somewhat. (just look at the nebula everywhere.) However, there won’t be enough pressure to KEEP the gas dense until there is a LOT of gas.
Say, the size of a star.
((now, I myself happen to agree that the universe was created, what CAUSED the big bang is completely unexplainable to science. And evolution is a big laugh.))
Thanks for that article link. But, you will notice that all they found was a young star, not a star being born. Nowhere do they have reports of it actually becoming a “star”. They just found a star that they call a “protostar” because it is different from the “stars” we have now.
Young stars, yes, 6,000 years or younger is pretty young.
Yes, I know that. But, gravity and gases, and the other things, do not have the right resources to create a star. Yes, but those nebula aren’t forming any stars, even when they have high-power winds and radiation working with the gravity, they still can’t form stars.
Well, in that case we agree then! Thanks for having a discussion with me, I love discussing science!
I’m glad you enjoyed it. I too enjoy a good argument where both people aren’t trying to claw each other’s throats out. :3
Greater understanding can be gained by both people that way.
My response (just for fun):
Yes, totally agree. Though clawing can be fun too, haha, I’m joking! Thank you for keeping it respectful and all! Yup!
I then got the following from another student.
Reading through this article gave me a bit of a headache with all of the big numbers… Aside from that though, when I look at the Big Bang from my slightly crazy Christian point of view, it does happen to make sense in light of Genesis 1:3. “And God said, ‘Let there be light!’, and there was light.” What causes more light than a giant explosion? Just my opinion.
I take that as almost a compliment! Thank you for joining the discussion. That is an interesting theory, without getting to in-depth on this discussion (might really give you a headache), I would recommend this article: http://alreadyanswered.org/q/universe/general/distant/ which discusses that verse and its meaning.
They were both interesting discussions and glad both peers took the time to comment!